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nimbus4321 is currently offline  nimbus4321
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2008
Junior Member
From: openvz.org
Hi,

I'm trying to run a J2EE application server cluster in OpenVZ. Each J2EE
application server instance in the cluster relies on multicast to find the
other cluster members, so I need to get multicast working with OpenVZ. To
start with, I'm working with a two node cluster, consisting of two VEs, each
hosting a single J2EE server node. I've got multicast working when the VEs
are both on the same HN, and so the cluster works fine in this situation.
However, if the VEs are on separate HNs, multicast does not work between the
VEs, and so the cluster members do not find each other. Note that all works
fine if the two J2EE application server instances are on the HNs themselves
(i.e. not running in VEs) - i.e. multicast is working fine between the two
HNs. So, I'd be grateful for some help in trying to get multicast working
when the VEs are on different HNs.

To clarify, current working configuration, with both VEs on the same HN:

|| HN1 [VE1] <--- multicast via bridge (vzbr0) ---> [VE2] ||

And desired configuration, with VEs on separate HNs:

|| HN1 [VE1] || <-- -multicast ---> || HN2 [VE2] ||


Environment details:

Host Kernel = ovzkernel-smp-2.6.9-023stab044.11.x86_64 (RHEL4 based kernel
for x86_64).
Guest Operating System = centos-4-x86_64-minimal .

Following the thread at http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msg&goto=21090 ,
the VEs are configured to use veth, with the veths connected using a bridge
(vzbr0).
The routing tables are setup so that the (unicast) IPs for the VEs are
routed via the bridge. This all works fine for unicast in all scenarios -
i.e. between the VEs, between the hosting HN and VEs, and between other
nodes and the VEs. It also works fine for multicast between the VEs if they
are on the same HN. However, it does not work for multicast from the HNs to
the VEs they are hosting, or from other nodes (including VEs on other nodes)
to the VEs.

 Steps carried out so far:

In attempting to get multicast working between VEs on separate machines
(HNs), so far, I've carried out the following:

1. Added a route for the Class D multicast address to the bridge (vzbr0).
This enabled multicast from the hosting HN to the VE it was hosting
(verified this using ping). However, other nodes, including the VE on the
other HN still could not send / receive multicast traffic from the VE.
2. Attempted to enable multicast forwarding by echo 1>
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/vzbr0/mc_forwarding . However, this was denied
("Operation not permitted"). Perhaps the OpenVZ  RHEL4 kernel does not allow
this by default ? However, unsure if this is required to get multicast to
work.

Questions:

So, no luck with the above. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I
could get this to work ?
In particular, is enabling the mc_forwarding setting required ? If so, is a
RHEL4 kernel available with this enabled ?
Or is there something else I'm missing ?

Many thanks for any help on this.
Re: OpenVZ Multicast Questions [message #26449 is a reply to message #26430] Wed, 23 January 2008 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Hinse is currently offline  Peter Hinse
Messages: 7
Registered: September 2007
Junior Member
From: openvz.org
nimbus 4321 wrote:

> Following the thread at 
> http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msg&goto=21090 
> <http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msg&goto=21090> , the VEs are 
> configured to use veth, with the veths connected using a bridge (vzbr0).
> The routing tables are setup so that the (unicast) IPs for the VEs are 
> routed via the bridge. This all works fine for unicast in all scenarios 
> - i.e. between the VEs, between the hosting HN and VEs, and between 
> other nodes and the VEs. It also works fine for multicast between the 
> VEs if they are on the same HN. However, it does not work for multicast 
> from the HNs to the VEs they are hosting, or from other nodes (including 
> VEs on other nodes) to the VEs.
> 
> Steps carried out so far:
> 
> In attempting to get multicast working between VEs on separate machines 
> (HNs), so far, I've carried out the following:
> 
> 1. Added a route for the Class D multicast address to the bridge 
> (vzbr0). This enabled multicast from the hosting HN to the VE it was 
> hosting (verified this using ping). However, other nodes, including the 
> VE on the other HN still could not send / receive multicast traffic from 
> the VE.
> 2. Attempted to enable multicast forwarding by echo 1> 
> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/vzbr0/mc_forwarding . However, this was denied 
> ("Operation not permitted"). Perhaps the OpenVZ  RHEL4 kernel does not 
> allow this by default ? However, unsure if this is required to get 
> multicast to work.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> So, no luck with the above. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I 
> could get this to work ?
> In particular, is enabling the mc_forwarding setting required ? If so, 
> is a RHEL4 kernel available with this enabled ?
> Or is there something else I'm missing ?

I started that forum thread and I got it running. Please print a

route -n

from the hardware node(s) as well as the VEs. Try to use ssmping (RPMs 
for RHEL at http://www.pramberger.at/peter/services/repository/rhel4/) 
for debugging, it helped me a lot.

Regards,

	Peter
Re: OpenVZ Multicast Questions [message #26577 is a reply to message #26430] Mon, 28 January 2008 20:36 Go to previous message
nimbus4321 is currently offline  nimbus4321
Messages: 8
Registered: January 2008
Junior Member
From: openvz.org
Hi Peter,

Thanks for the reply. Fortunately, have now got multicast working - see
thread on the Support forum at
http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=tree&goto=26332&#msg_26332 for the
details.

Unfortunately, now the HN network connectivity disappears for a couple of
minutes when I stop the VE. Have posted a question on this on the Support
forum too:  http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=tree&goto=26576&#msg_26576.
Anyway, will investigate further !
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