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libcgroup and RHEL/CentOS/SL 6 [message #48137] Sun, 30 September 2012 01:03 Go to next message
LightDot is currently offline  LightDot
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Registered: October 2011
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From: *parallels.com
Just a heads up to all whom this might concern - libcgroup from openvz
repo is now replacing the original libcgroup on RHEL 6.

This kind of invasive OS changes should be announced somewhere,
really. Just a silent drop in the repo isn't a good way to introduce
such packages.

Is there a specific reason for this upgrade? I know libcgroup is being
provided for RHEL 5, but why is it now also replacing the existing
RHEL 6 package? Is there a specific functionality that's missing in
the original?

Wouldn't perhaps a separate RHEL 5 / 6 repo be the right thing to do
here in the first place? So ploop on RHEL 5 could perhaps be
obsoleted, libcgroup properly handled, etc...?
Re: libcgroup and RHEL/CentOS/SL 6 [message #48176 is a reply to message #48137] Mon, 01 October 2012 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Todd Lyons is currently offline  Todd Lyons
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Registered: September 2011
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From: *parallels.com
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM, LightDot <lightdot@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a heads up to all whom this might concern - libcgroup from openvz
> repo is now replacing the original libcgroup on RHEL 6.
> This kind of invasive OS changes should be announced somewhere,
> really. Just a silent drop in the repo isn't a good way to introduce
> such packages.

Look back in this mailing list 2 days before your post. Kir explained
the need for it there.

...Todd
--
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If you want them to accept your mail and manage it the way you want,
send it the way the spec says to. --John Levine
Re: libcgroup and RHEL/CentOS/SL 6 [message #48192 is a reply to message #48176] Tue, 02 October 2012 12:43 Go to previous message
LightDot is currently offline  LightDot
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From: *parallels.com
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Todd Lyons <tlyons@ivenue.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM, LightDot <lightdot@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just a heads up to all whom this might concern - libcgroup from openvz
>> repo is now replacing the original libcgroup on RHEL 6.
>> This kind of invasive OS changes should be announced somewhere,
>> really. Just a silent drop in the repo isn't a good way to introduce
>> such packages.
>
> Look back in this mailing list 2 days before your post. Kir explained
> the need for it there.
>
> ...Todd

No, with all due respect, he didn't. I've seen the message, there is
nothing there about RHEL 6. As far as I can see, this RHEL 6 update is
a collateral damage caused by a quick fix to push the update trough on
RHEL 5.

Wouldn't it be better to issue the <= version of libcgroup, so the
stock version on RHEL 6 wouldn't get updated? Or to make a separate
yum tools repos for RHEL 5 and 6 and properly fix the problem on RHEL
5..? It seems that the RHEL 5 / 6 gap is getting too big for one
single repo, doesn't it?

I've been maintaining yum/up2date repos for longer I'd care to
remember and IMHO, this vzctl / ploop upgrade didn't go very well.
It's not my intention to bash anyone or to sound ungrateful for all
the work openvz team is putting into openvz and the kernel itself, I
just posted to warn other RHEL 6 users. So please take this as a
simple heads up & some well intended and, hopefully, constructive
criticism.

How about a openvz-utils-testing to help future updates..?

Regards,
Ales
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