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help: squezze [message #43817] Tue, 18 October 2011 08:54 Go to next message
<dmacharashvili is currently offline  <dmacharashvili
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From: *parallels.com
Hi All!



A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run "aptitude
upgrade," it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it recommended? Or is
there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?



apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude base-files ca-certificates firmware-linux-free grub-common grub-pc
libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7
libkdb5-4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libssl0.9.8 linux-base
linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 openssh-client
openssh-server
openssl tzdata usbutils
23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,168 kB disk space will be freed.







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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Re: help: squezze [message #43818 is a reply to message #43817] Tue, 18 October 2011 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tim Small is currently offline  Tim Small
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From: *parallels.com
On 18/10/11 09:54, dmacharashvili@geonet.ge wrote:
>
> Hi All!
>
>
>
> A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run
> "aptitude upgrade," it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it
> recommended? Or is there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?
>

Doesn't matter - it's installed, but won't be used unless you select it
(not the openvz kernel) on boot from grub or whatever. You can
uninstall the original kernel if you want.

Tim.

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RE: help: squezze [message #43821 is a reply to message #43817] Wed, 19 October 2011 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dani is currently offline  Dani
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I would definitely upgrade the kernel as there are some new features on part
of cpu load per VZ

If u really don’t want it to be updated type

Aptitude hold <package>



Gr. Daniel



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens
dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 10:55
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: [Users] help: squezze



Hi All!



A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run “aptitude
upgrade,” it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it recommended? Or is
there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?



apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude base-files ca-certificates firmware-linux-free grub-common grub-pc
libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7
libkdb5-4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libssl0.9.8 linux-base
linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 openssh-client
openssh-server
openssl tzdata usbutils
23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,168 kB disk space will be freed.







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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RE: help: squezze [message #43823 is a reply to message #43821] Thu, 20 October 2011 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
&lt;dmacharashvili is currently offline  &lt;dmacharashvili
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From: *parallels.com
I always update openvz kernel . I exclude only original kernels from upgrades. I tried ( “aptitude hold linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 “ than upgrade it works for me.



Thanks.









Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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From: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] On Behalf Of Daniël van den Oord
Sent: 2011 წლის 19 10, ოთხშაბათი 22:19
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: RE: [Users] help: squezze



I would definitely upgrade the kernel as there are some new features on part of cpu load per VZ

If u really don’t want it to be updated type

Aptitude hold <package>



Gr. Daniel



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 10:55
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: [Users] help: squezze



Hi All!



A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run “aptitude upgrade,” it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it recommended? Or is there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?



apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude base-files ca-certificates firmware-linux-free grub-common grub-pc libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7
libkdb5-4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libssl0.9.8 linux-base linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 openssh-client openssh-server
openssl tzdata usbutils
23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,168 kB disk space will be freed.







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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RE: help: squezze [message #43825 is a reply to message #43823] Thu, 20 October 2011 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dani is currently offline  Dani
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From: *parallels.com
If u install the openvz kernel u can purge the original kernel…

Not need then to hold the package



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: donderdag 20 oktober 2011 11:47
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: RE: [Users] help: squezze



I always update openvz kernel . I exclude only original kernels from upgrades. I tried ( “aptitude hold linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 “ than upgrade it works for me.



Thanks.









Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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From: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] On Behalf Of Daniël van den Oord
Sent: 2011 წლის 19 10, ოთხშაბათი 22:19
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: RE: [Users] help: squezze



I would definitely upgrade the kernel as there are some new features on part of cpu load per VZ

If u really don’t want it to be updated type

Aptitude hold <package>



Gr. Daniel



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 10:55
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: [Users] help: squezze



Hi All!



A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run “aptitude upgrade,” it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it recommended? Or is there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?



apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude base-files ca-certificates firmware-linux-free grub-common grub-pc libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7
libkdb5-4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libssl0.9.8 linux-base linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 openssh-client openssh-server
openssl tzdata usbutils
23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,168 kB disk space will be freed.







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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RE: help: squezze [message #43831 is a reply to message #43825] Thu, 20 October 2011 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
&lt;dmacharashvili is currently offline  &lt;dmacharashvili
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From: *parallels.com
I try to remove it after installing openvz kernel, but when I start aptitude upgrade it shows same. Can show how to accomplish this?



Thanks







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

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From: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] On Behalf Of Daniël van den Oord
Sent: 2011 წლის 20 10, ხუთშაბათი 14:35
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: RE: [Users] help: squezze



If u install the openvz kernel u can purge the original kernel…

Not need then to hold the package



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: donderdag 20 oktober 2011 11:47
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: RE: [Users] help: squezze



I always update openvz kernel . I exclude only original kernels from upgrades. I tried ( “aptitude hold linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 “ than upgrade it works for me.



Thanks.









Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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Users mailing list

Users@openvz.org

https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users





From: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] On Behalf Of Daniël van den Oord
Sent: 2011 წლის 19 10, ოთხშაბათი 22:19
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: RE: [Users] help: squezze



I would definitely upgrade the kernel as there are some new features on part of cpu load per VZ

If u really don’t want it to be updated type

Aptitude hold <package>



Gr. Daniel



Van: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] Namens dmacharashvili@geonet.ge
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 10:55
Aan: users@openvz.org
Onderwerp: [Users] help: squezze



Hi All!



A want to upgrade my openvz host on debian squezze. When I run “aptitude upgrade,” it shows me to upgrade base kernel too. Is it recommended? Or is there a way to exclude original kernel from upgrades?



apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude base-files ca-certificates firmware-linux-free grub-common grub-pc libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit7
libkdb5-4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libssl0.9.8 linux-base linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 openssh-client openssh-server
openssl tzdata usbutils
23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 69.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 7,168 kB disk space will be freed.







Best Regards!



Davit Macharashvli

dmacharashvili@geonet.ge



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gspca webcam module [message #43832 is a reply to message #43831] Thu, 20 October 2011 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
antoney is currently offline  antoney
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Registered: January 2011
Location: Ukraine
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From: *parallels.com
Hello,

I have webcam working on host system. After installation of
openvz-kernel there is no /dev/video0 anymore.
Is there gspca module for openvz or other solution to get camera work.
System is Centos 5.7.

Thanks
Anton
vps settings [message #44098 is a reply to message #43823] Wed, 16 November 2011 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steffan is currently offline  Steffan
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Hello List,



Im quit new to using openvz

Is there somewhere a list of settings



What I mean:

I have a node with 2 quad processors
96 GB of memory and big disks



I dont want to use vpsspli
but there are a lot of settings and I don’t know what they all mean



I like to know how I can make a vps with say

256 MB memory
100 GB Disk
1 vcpu



And say

2048 mb memory
2 vcpu



Etc



Hope someone can help me to the right direction and understand my bad English : -)



Thanxs



Steffan
Re: vps settings [message #44102 is a reply to message #44098] Wed, 16 November 2011 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MailingListe is currently offline  MailingListe
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From: *parallels.com
Zitat von Steffan <general@ziggo.nl>:

> Hello List,
>
>
>
> Im quit new to using openvz
>
> Is there somewhere a list of settings
>
>
>
> What I mean:
>
> I have a node with 2 quad processors
> 96 GB of memory and big disks
>
>
>
> I dont want to use vpsspli
> but there are a lot of settings and I don?t know what they all mean
>
>
>
> I like to know how I can make a vps with say
>
> 256 MB memory
> 100 GB Disk
> 1 vcpu
>
>
>
> And say
>
> 2048 mb memory
> 2 vcpu
>
>
>
> Etc
>
>
>
> Hope someone can help me to the right direction and understand my
> bad English : -)

A good starting point is
http://wiki.openvz.org/Resource_shortage
and
http://wiki.openvz.org/UBC_parameter_units

IMHO the most "critical" resource settings are
kmemsize (bytes) : Max size of kernel memory used by VE
privvmapges (pages): Max number of "private" memory pages used by VE
shmpages (pages): Max number of pages for shared memory segments

and additionally the quota and number of inodes for a VE.

Regards

Andreas
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Re: vps settings [message #44103 is a reply to message #44102] Wed, 16 November 2011 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharp is currently offline  Sharp
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:00 PM, <lst_hoe02@kwsoft.de> wrote:
> A good starting point is
> http://wiki.openvz.org/Resource_shortage
> and
> http://wiki.openvz.org/UBC_parameter_units
>

It's bad idea to advise UBC nowadays. Everyone should migrate to RHEL6
kernel and use vSwap [1] for that. It's generally simple, has only two
really primary parameters for managing memory.

[1] http://wiki.openvz.org/Vswap

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Re: vps settings [message #44105 is a reply to message #44103] Wed, 16 November 2011 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zitat von "Ilya A. Otyutskiy" <sharp@thesharp.ru>:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:00 PM, <lst_hoe02@kwsoft.de> wrote:
>> A good starting point is
>> http://wiki.openvz.org/Resource_shortage
>> and
>> http://wiki.openvz.org/UBC_parameter_units
>>
>
> It's bad idea to advise UBC nowadays. Everyone should migrate to RHEL6
> kernel and use vSwap [1] for that. It's generally simple, has only two
> really primary parameters for managing memory.

I doubt most "starters" will install a kernel of their choice but use
a distribution like Debian 6 with OpenVZ kernel included. Maybe you
can tell how to find out if the kernel used supports vSwap?

Regards

Andreas
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Re: vps settings [message #44106 is a reply to message #44105] Wed, 16 November 2011 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharp is currently offline  Sharp
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:49 PM, <lst_hoe02@kwsoft.de> wrote:
> I doubt most "starters" will install a kernel of their choice but use a
> distribution like Debian 6 with OpenVZ kernel included. Maybe you can tell
> how to find out if the kernel used supports vSwap?

It should be 2.6.32 and the HN should probably be RHEL6 (or its
derivative like SL6/CentOS6). If it's debian -- the user should
install RHEL6's kernel (there was a discussion in the neighbor thread
about debian and proxmox kernel [1]) because debian's kernel don't
have vswap support (that's AFAIR).

Personally, I don't get that thing: using debian as HN. OpenVZ ships
their kernel for RHEL and tests them on RHEL, all the features goes
there first before debian guys will incorporate them into their
kernel. So, maybe it's a good idea to use RHEL as your HN just to
minimize your work, wouldn't you think so? And if you hate RHEL so
much -- hey, it's just the HN, you can do a bazillions of debian CTs
there.

So, I would never recommend debian as a HN.

[1] http://openvz.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/004324.html

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Re: vps settings [message #44107 is a reply to message #44106] Wed, 16 November 2011 17:20 Go to previous message
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Zitat von "Ilya A. Otyutskiy" <sharp@thesharp.ru>:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:49 PM, <lst_hoe02@kwsoft.de> wrote:
>> I doubt most "starters" will install a kernel of their choice but use a
>> distribution like Debian 6 with OpenVZ kernel included. Maybe you can tell
>> how to find out if the kernel used supports vSwap?
>
> It should be 2.6.32 and the HN should probably be RHEL6 (or its
> derivative like SL6/CentOS6). If it's debian -- the user should
> install RHEL6's kernel (there was a discussion in the neighbor thread
> about debian and proxmox kernel [1]) because debian's kernel don't
> have vswap support (that's AFAIR).
>
> Personally, I don't get that thing: using debian as HN. OpenVZ ships
> their kernel for RHEL and tests them on RHEL, all the features goes
> there first before debian guys will incorporate them into their
> kernel. So, maybe it's a good idea to use RHEL as your HN just to
> minimize your work, wouldn't you think so? And if you hate RHEL so
> much -- hey, it's just the HN, you can do a bazillions of debian CTs
> there.
>
> So, I would never recommend debian as a HN.

No one like to use every distribution available and multiple OS in
corperate environment, as with every flavor the management get more
taxing as you for sure already know. If you are a RHEL using company,
fine. But if the only RHEL running systems would be the HN(s) it is
simply not the preferred choice. That might be one of the reasons for
the hype about LXC, to not get sticked with one special distribution
to get the most of it.

As always YMMV

Regards

Andreas
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