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Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. [message #48437 is a reply to message #48393]

Wed, 17 October 2012 22:11

akpm
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Registered: March 2007

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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:16:37 +0400
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com> wrote:

> ...
>
> A general explanation of what this is all about follows:
>
> The kernel memory limitation mechanism for memcg concerns itself with
> disallowing potentially non-reclaimable allocations to happen in exaggerate
> quantities by a particular set of processes (cgroup). Those allocations could
> create pressure that affects the behavior of a different and unrelated set of
> processes.
>
> Its basic working mechanism is to annotate some allocations with the
> _GFP_KMEMCG flag. When this flag is set, the current process allocating will
> have its memcg identified and charged against. When reaching a specific limit,
> further allocations will be denied.

The need to set _GFP_KMEMCG is rather unpleasing, and makes one wonder
"why didn't it just track all allocations".

Does this mean that over time we can expect more sites to get the
_GFP_KMEMCG tagging? If so, are there any special implications, or do
we just go in, do the one-line patch and expect everything to work? If
so, why don't we go in and do that tagging right now?

And how *accurate* is the proposed code? What percentage of kernel
memory allocations are unaccounted, typical case and worst case?

All sorts of questions come to mind over this decision, but it was
unexplained. It should be, please. A lot!

>
> ...
>
> Limits lower than
> the user limit effectively means there is a separate kernel memory limit that
> may be reached independently than the user limit. Values equal or greater than
> the user limit implies only that kernel memory is tracked. This provides a
> unified vision of "maximum memory", be it kernel or user memory.
>

I'm struggling to understand that text much at all. Reading the
Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt patch helped.

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		[PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		[PATCH v5 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 21:50
		[PATCH v5 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page. By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page. By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:11
		Re: [PATCH v5 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page. By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 08:55
		[PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Michal Hocko on Tue, 16 October 2012 12:14
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:08
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:02
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Tejun Heo on Thu, 18 October 2012 19:47
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Tejun Heo on Thu, 18 October 2012 19:37
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:04
		[PATCH v5 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed. By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed. By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed. By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:33
		[PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki on Wed, 17 October 2012 06:40
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Thu, 18 October 2012 22:06
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Fri, 19 October 2012 09:10
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Fri, 19 October 2012 09:31
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Fri, 19 October 2012 10:00
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:37
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:23
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Thu, 18 October 2012 21:59
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Fri, 19 October 2012 10:08
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: David Rientjes on Fri, 19 October 2012 20:34
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Mon, 22 October 2012 12:34
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Michal Hocko on Mon, 22 October 2012 12:51
		Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure By: Glauber Costa on Mon, 22 October 2012 12:52
		[PATCH v5 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag By: Michal Hocko on Tue, 16 October 2012 12:15
		Re: [PATCH v5 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:09
		[PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 23:28
		Re: [PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management By: Michal Hocko on Thu, 18 October 2012 06:14
		Re: [PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:42
		[PATCH v5 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		[PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Michal Hocko on Tue, 16 October 2012 12:23
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Christoph Lameter on Tue, 16 October 2012 18:25
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 19:02
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Christoph Lameter on Tue, 16 October 2012 19:30
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:38
		[PATCH v5 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:37
		[PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 10:16
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: Christoph Lameter on Tue, 16 October 2012 15:31
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: Glauber Costa on Tue, 16 October 2012 18:55
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:12
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 09:24
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: akpm on Thu, 18 October 2012 20:44
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 11:53
		Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg By: David Rientjes on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:43
		Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. By: akpm on Wed, 17 October 2012 22:11
		Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. By: Glauber Costa on Thu, 18 October 2012 08:52
		Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. By: akpm on Thu, 18 October 2012 19:21
		Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg. By: Glauber Costa on Fri, 19 October 2012 09:55

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