| Re: How to draw values for /proc/stat [message #44510 is a reply to message #44509] |
Mon, 12 December 2011 09:35   |
Glauber Costa
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Registered: October 2011
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On 12/12/2011 01:33 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 12:55 -0200, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 12/09/2011 12:03 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
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>>> Namespaces seem to be about limiting visibility, cgroups about
>>> controlling resources.
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>>> The two things are hopelessly disjoint atm, but I believe someone was
>>> looking at this mess.
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>> I did take a look at this (if anyone else was, I'd like to know so we
>> can share some ideas), but I am not convinced we should do anything to
>> join them anymore. We virtualization people are to the best of my
>> knowledge the only ones doing namespaces. Cgroups, OTOH, got a lot bigger.
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>> What I am mostly concerned about now, is how consistent they will be.
>> /proc always being always global indeed does make sense, but my question
>> still stands: if you live in a resource-controlled world, why should you
>> even see resources you will never own ?
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> Since without namespaces you can still see the rest of the world. So it
> makes sense to me to still see all resources too.
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> Also, proportional controllers might not see a consistent slice of the
> resource, making the stats rather awkward to interpret.
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> Furthermore, not everybody might care about these statistics at all and
> I know pjt objected to being subjected to the extra accounting (pjt do
> speak up etc..).
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>> If it is not co-mounted, we draw the global value. If you don't mount
>> it, I someone does not mount it, I can assure you he doesn't care about
>> it. We for sure will.
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> Anyway, looking at the rest of the emails in this thread the current
> proposal is a cgroup mount option that indicates if you want these
> per-cgroup stats or not, right?
Well, it is something in this direction. I don't think it's entirely
clear what exactly it will look like, but it seems we're making progress.
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