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Re: [RFD] L2 Network namespace infrastructure [message #19109 is a reply to message #19104] Sat, 23 June 2007 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jeff Garzik is currently offline  Jeff Garzik
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Registered: February 2006
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David Miller wrote:
> I don't accept that we have to add another function argument
> to a bunch of core routines just to support this crap,
> especially since you give no way to turn it off and get
> that function argument slot back.
> 
> To be honest I think this form of virtualization is a complete
> waste of time, even the openvz approach.
> 
> We're protecting the kernel from itself, and that's an endless
> uphill battle that you will never win.  Let's do this kind of
> stuff properly with a real minimal hypervisor, hopefully with
> appropriate hardware level support and good virtualized device
> interfaces, instead of this namespace stuff.

Strongly seconded.  This containerized virtualization approach just 
bloats up the kernel for something that is inherently fragile and IMO 
less secure -- protecting the kernel from itself.

Plenty of other virt approaches don't stir the code like this, while 
simultaneously providing fewer, more-clean entry points for the 
virtualization to occur.

And that's speaking WITHOUT my vendor hat on...

	Jeff


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