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Re: [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers [message #15331 is a reply to message #15325]

Fri, 27 July 2007 06:40

Pavel Emelianov
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Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 18:51 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> + * pid_nr() : global id, i.e. the id seen from the init namespace;
>> + * pid_vnr() : virtual id, i.e. the id seen from the namespace this pid
>> + * belongs to. this only makes sence when called in the
>> + * context of the task that belongs to the same namespace;
>
> Can we give these some better names? I think "virtual" is pretty bad,
> especially if you consider the multiple level of pid namespaces that we
> might have some day. Processes can belong to multiple pid namespaces,
> and thus have multiple "virtual" ids.

We do have them now (multiple levels). The "virtual" stands for "the one
that task sees by his own".

> Even though it will make the names longer, I think we need something in
> the names to say that "pid_nr()" is the top-level, global, init_pid_ns
> number. "pid_vnr()" is the pid for the lowest pid namespace in the
> hierarchy.

That's it.

> Suka called this an "active pid namespace" because that is
> where the task actively interacts with its peers. But, I'm open to
> other suggestions, too.
>
> When writing code, people are going to need to know which one to use:
> pid_nr() or pid_vnr(). We can document the functions, but the names
> will help much more than any documentation.

I do not mind, but what other names can we have? pid_nr() for init namespace,
pid_nr_ns for arbitrary namespace and pid_<what> for the lower-level namespace?

>
> -- Dave
>
>

Thanks,
Pavel

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		[RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:45
		[PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:46
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 26 July 2007 16:47
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Fri, 27 July 2007 08:07
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 08:24
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Fri, 27 July 2007 08:35
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 08:37
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: dev on Thu, 26 July 2007 16:59
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Dave Hansen on Thu, 26 July 2007 16:10
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: xemul on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:38
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 16:18
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 08:00
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 06 August 2007 09:54
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 09:58
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 06 August 2007 10:38
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 11:21
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 06 August 2007 12:52
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 13:38
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 11:29
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 06 August 2007 12:48
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 06 August 2007 13:36
		Re: [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 06 August 2007 13:55
		[PATCH 2/15] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:47
		[PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:48
		Re: [PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 11:40
		Re: [PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:07
		Re: [PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Tue, 31 July 2007 00:21
		[PATCH 4/15] Make proc_flust_task() flush entries from multiple proc trees By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:48
		[PATCH 5/15] Introduce struct upid By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:49
		Re: [PATCH 5/15] Introduce struct upid By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 09:50
		Re: [PATCH 5/15] Introduce struct upid By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 05:58
		[PATCH 6/15] Make alloc_pid(), free_pid() and put_pid() work with struct upid By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:50
		Re: [PATCH 6/15] Make alloc_pid(), free_pid() and put_pid() work with struct upid By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 10:14
		Re: [PATCH 6/15] Make alloc_pid(), free_pid() and put_pid() work with struct upid By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:03
		[PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:51
		Re: [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers By: Dave Hansen on Thu, 26 July 2007 19:03
		Re: [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:40
		Re: [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 12:08
		Re: [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:11
		[PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:51
		Re: [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids By: Dave Hansen on Thu, 26 July 2007 19:05
		Re: [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:43
		Re: [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 12:39
		Re: [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:15
		[PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:52
		Re: [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned By: Oleg Nesterov on Fri, 27 July 2007 15:10
		Re: [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:17
		Re: [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Mon, 30 July 2007 23:43
		Re: [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Tue, 31 July 2007 05:49
		[PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:54
		Re: [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 15:56
		Re: [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 17:02
		Re: [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:45
		Re: [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:43
		[PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:55
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Oleg Nesterov on Fri, 27 July 2007 12:30
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 13:38
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: serue on Fri, 27 July 2007 19:59
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 27 July 2007 20:23
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 09:34
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 09:31
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: serue on Wed, 01 August 2007 16:13
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: dev on Thu, 02 August 2007 08:35
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: serue on Thu, 02 August 2007 20:09
		Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 11:23
		[PATCH 12/15] Miscelaneous stuff for pid namespaces By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:56
		Re: [PATCH 12/15] Miscelaneous stuff for pid namespaces By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:53
		Re: [PATCH 12/15] Miscelaneous stuff for pid namespaces By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:22
		[PATCH 13/15] Clone the pid namespace By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:56
		[PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:57
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 10:39
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 11:56
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Mon, 30 July 2007 15:44
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Tue, 31 July 2007 09:07
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Wed, 01 August 2007 06:16
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Dave Hansen on Wed, 01 August 2007 16:00
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Wed, 01 August 2007 19:51
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: dev on Thu, 02 August 2007 08:37
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 16:08
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 17:08
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 03 August 2007 06:22
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Fri, 03 August 2007 10:55
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Thu, 02 August 2007 07:37
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Wed, 01 August 2007 19:48
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Thu, 02 August 2007 07:29
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 15:39
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Thu, 02 August 2007 17:20
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 17:29
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Thu, 02 August 2007 18:36
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Oleg Nesterov on Thu, 02 August 2007 18:49
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: serue on Thu, 02 August 2007 19:13
		Re: [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 03 August 2007 21:36
		[PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Pavel Emelianov on Thu, 26 July 2007 14:58
		Re: [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 27 July 2007 05:57
		Re: [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:44
		Re: [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Oleg Nesterov on Sun, 29 July 2007 14:29
		Re: [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Pavel Emelianov on Mon, 30 July 2007 06:49
		Re: [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user By: Oleg Nesterov on Tue, 31 July 2007 10:04
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 27 July 2007 04:22
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces By: Sukadev Bhattiprolu on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:08
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces By: Pavel Emelianov on Fri, 27 July 2007 06:47

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