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			| Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices [message #7928] | Mon, 30 October 2006 18:07  |  
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					|  Paul Menage Messages: 642
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	| On 10/30/06, Dave McCracken <dmccr@us.ibm.com> wrote: >
 > Is there any user demand for heirarchy right now?  I agree that we should
 > design the API to allow heirarchy, but unless there is a current need for it
 > I think we should not support actually creating heirarchies.  In addition to
 > the reduction in code complexity, it will simplify the paradigm presented to
 > the users.  I'm a firm believer in not giving users options they will never
 > use.
 
 The current CPUsets code supports hierarchies, and I believe that
 there are people out there who depend on them (right, PaulJ?) Since
 CPUsets are at heart a form of resource controller, it would be nice
 to have them use the same resource control infrastructure as other
 resource controllers (see the generic container patches that I sent
 out as an example of this). So that would be at least one user that
 requires a hierarchy.
 
 Paul
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			| Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices [message #7929 is a reply to message #7928] | Mon, 30 October 2006 20:41  |  
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					|  Paul Jackson Messages: 157
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	| >  I believe that > there are people out there who depend on them (right, PaulJ?)
 
 Yes.  For example a common usage pattern has the system admin carve
 off a big chunk of CPUs and Memory Nodes into a cpuset for the batch
 scheduler to manage, within which the batch scheduler creates child
 cpusets, roughly one for each job under its control.
 
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			| Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices [message #7938 is a reply to message #7928] | Mon, 30 October 2006 18:12  |  
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					|  Dave McCracken Messages: 2
 Registered: October 2006
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	| On Monday 30 October 2006 12:07 pm, Paul Menage wrote: > On 10/30/06, Dave McCracken <dmccr@us.ibm.com> wrote:
 > > Is there any user demand for heirarchy right now?  I agree that we should
 > > design the API to allow heirarchy, but unless there is a current need for
 > > it I think we should not support actually creating heirarchies.  In
 > > addition to the reduction in code complexity, it will simplify the
 > > paradigm presented to the users.  I'm a firm believer in not giving users
 > > options they will never use.
 >
 > The current CPUsets code supports hierarchies, and I believe that
 > there are people out there who depend on them (right, PaulJ?) Since
 > CPUsets are at heart a form of resource controller, it would be nice
 > to have them use the same resource control infrastructure as other
 > resource controllers (see the generic container patches that I sent
 > out as an example of this). So that would be at least one user that
 > requires a hierarchy.
 
 Hmm, ok.  If someone is actually using it I'd say let's go ahead and implement
 it now.
 
 Dave McCracken
 
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