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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6008] | Wed, 06 September 2006 18:45  |  
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					|  Greg KH Messages: 27
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	| On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:24:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > > If MIPS and parisc don't matter for the stable tree (very possible - there
 > > are no big commercial distributions for them), then dammit, neither should
 > > ia64 and sparc (there are no big commercial distros for them either).
 >
 > Erm, RHEL and SLES both support ia64.
 
 Yes, but the -stable developers don't build for those arches, that's why
 it was missed here.
 
 So, what's the proper patch for the next -stable release to fix this
 problem?  I see a bunch of different ones floating around...
 
 thanks,
 
 greg k-h
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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6011 is a reply to message #6008] | Wed, 06 September 2006 19:12   |  
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					|  Matthew Wilcox Messages: 2
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	| On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:45:09AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:24:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > > > If MIPS and parisc don't matter for the stable tree (very possible - there
 > > > are no big commercial distributions for them), then dammit, neither should
 > > > ia64 and sparc (there are no big commercial distros for them either).
 > >
 > > Erm, RHEL and SLES both support ia64.
 >
 > Yes, but the -stable developers don't build for those arches, that's why
 > it was missed here.
 
 What's the easiest way to get coverage here?  Sending a parisc
 workstation or server to someone?  Giving accounts to some/all of the
 stable team?  Finding someone who cares about parisc to join the stable
 team?
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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6013 is a reply to message #6011] | Wed, 06 September 2006 19:25   |  
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					|  Greg KH Messages: 27
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	| On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 01:12:16PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:45:09AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
 > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:24:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > > > > If MIPS and parisc don't matter for the stable tree (very possible - there
 > > > > are no big commercial distributions for them), then dammit, neither should
 > > > > ia64 and sparc (there are no big commercial distros for them either).
 > > >
 > > > Erm, RHEL and SLES both support ia64.
 > >
 > > Yes, but the -stable developers don't build for those arches, that's why
 > > it was missed here.
 >
 > What's the easiest way to get coverage here?  Sending a parisc
 > workstation or server to someone?  Giving accounts to some/all of the
 > stable team?  Finding someone who cares about parisc to join the stable
 > team?
 
 How about: Someone from that arch trying out the -stable release
 canidates to make sure it doesn't break anything on their arches /
 favorite machine?
 
 And no, I really don't want a parisc machine here :)
 
 thanks,
 
 greg k-h
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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6020 is a reply to message #6013] | Wed, 06 September 2006 20:27   |  
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					|  Willy Tarreau Messages: 3
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	| On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:25:11PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 01:12:16PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:45:09AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
 > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:24:05AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > > > > > If MIPS and parisc don't matter for the stable tree (very possible - there
 > > > > > are no big commercial distributions for them), then dammit, neither should
 > > > > > ia64 and sparc (there are no big commercial distros for them either).
 > > > >
 > > > > Erm, RHEL and SLES both support ia64.
 > > >
 > > > Yes, but the -stable developers don't build for those arches, that's why
 > > > it was missed here.
 > >
 > > What's the easiest way to get coverage here?  Sending a parisc
 > > workstation or server to someone?  Giving accounts to some/all of the
 > > stable team?  Finding someone who cares about parisc to join the stable
 > > team?
 >
 > How about: Someone from that arch trying out the -stable release
 > canidates to make sure it doesn't break anything on their arches /
 > favorite machine?
 
 IMHO it's even simpler than that. You already announce release candidates
 with what you intend to push into next -stable. Those who complain that
 -stable breaks on them just get what they deserve. They're free to announce
 the problem and even provide a patch in order to fix the problem in next
 -stable ASAP, but I find it a bit easy to complain about the -stable team
 that some fixes break a few rarely tested pieces of software !
 
 I'd prefer that we get slightly more -stable releases with a few ones
 potentially wrong on rare occasions, than fewer ones which get released
 only once everyone agrees (ie mostly never).
 
 > And no, I really don't want a parisc machine here :)
 
 I have one right here serving my web pages, but I have to check that
 my toolchain is still OK (I don't build on it - 32 MB, NFS root). You
 don't know what you're missing :-)
 
 > thanks,
 >
 > greg k-h
 
 Regards,
 Willy
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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6067 is a reply to message #6057] | Thu, 07 September 2006 15:37   |  
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					|  Greg KH Messages: 27
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	| On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:11:42PM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > Hi Greg,
 >
 > > > > Yes, but the -stable developers don't build for those arches, that's why
 > > > > it was missed here.
 > > >
 > > > What's the easiest way to get coverage here?  Sending a parisc
 > > > workstation or server to someone?  Giving accounts to some/all of the
 > > > stable team?  Finding someone who cares about parisc to join the stable
 > > > team?
 > >
 > > How about: Someone from that arch trying out the -stable release
 > > canidates to make sure it doesn't break anything on their arches /
 > > favorite machine?
 >
 > this won't work for security hot-fixes, because you basically don't do a
 > release candidate for them. We should think about this, too.
 
 Well, short of me and Chris getting one of every arch out there (which I
 don't recommend), I think we will just get by as we have been doing in
 the past.
 
 thanks,
 
 greg k-h
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			| Re: [stable] [PATCH] IA64, sparc: local DoS with corrupted ELFs [message #6103 is a reply to message #6013] | Fri, 08 September 2006 09:11  |  
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					|  Jes Sorensen Messages: 5
 Registered: February 2006
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	| >>>>> "Greg" == Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes: 
 Greg> On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 01:12:16PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
 >> What's the easiest way to get coverage here?  Sending a parisc
 >> workstation or server to someone?  Giving accounts to some/all of
 >> the stable team?  Finding someone who cares about parisc to join
 >> the stable team?
 
 Greg> How about: Someone from that arch trying out the -stable release
 Greg> canidates to make sure it doesn't break anything on their arches
 Greg> / favorite machine?
 
 I'll try and see if we can arrange some sort of autotest of these on
 Altix, that should at least cover parts of the ia64 space.
 
 Greg> And no, I really don't want a parisc machine here :)
 
 What, you don't fancy 512 CPU Altix in your basement either? :)
 
 Cheers,
 Jes
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