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			| VServer vs OpenVZ [message #451] | Tue, 06 December 2005 12:12  |  
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					|  Eugen Leitl Messages: 1
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	| Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same
 hardware, on how both compare.
 
 Factors of interest are stability, Debian support,
 hardware utilization, documentation and community support,
 security.
 
 My planned usage is VServers in a hosting setting.
 
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 Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org
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			| Re:  VServer vs OpenVZ [message #460 is a reply to message #451] | Tue, 06 December 2005 14:17  |  
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					|  Kir Kolyshkin Messages: 6
 Registered: September 2005
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	| My view of subject is definitely biased towards OpenVZ, but still: there are areas where OpenVZ is definitely more developed than VServer. Let me
 concentrate on three of these.
 
 First is stability. By sticking to old (currently 2.6.8) kernel and
 backporting all the bug fixes, security fixes and hardware driver
 updates, we make OpenVZ kernel very stable. We do a lot of kernel
 testing in house, including stress testing.
 
 Second is resource management. There are a lot of resources that can be
 abused from inside VServer guest or OpenVZ VPS, leading to at least DoS;
 some of those resources are not under control of traditional UNIX means
 such as ulimit. In OpenVZ we have User Beancounters (UBC for short),
 which accounts and limits about 20 of such resources (including IPC
 objects, various kernel buffers etc).
 
 Third is virtualized network stack. AFAIK VServer's ngnet is not yet
 ready for prime time yet, while OpenVZ's venet is here. Without fully
 virtualized network stack people are experiencing problems like this one:
 http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200511/0165.html
 http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200511/0189.html
 
 Regards,
 Kir, OpenVZ project leader
 
 Eugen Leitl wrote:
 
 >Before I try OpenVZ I would like to hear comments of people
 >who've ran both VServer and OpenVZ, preferrably on the same
 >hardware, on how both compare.
 >
 >Factors of interest are stability, Debian support,
 >hardware utilization, documentation and community support,
 >security.
 >
 >My planned usage is VServers in a hosting setting.
 >
 >
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