| Re: [PATCH v9 1/9] Basic kernel memory functionality for the Memory Controller [message #44629 is a reply to message #44575] | 
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						Michal Hocko
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		On Thu 15-12-11 16:29:18, Glauber Costa wrote: 
> On 12/14/2011 09:04 PM, Michal Hocko wrote: 
> >[Now with the current patch version, I hope] 
> >On Mon 12-12-11 11:47:01, Glauber Costa wrote: 
[...] 
> >>@@ -3848,10 +3862,17 @@ static inline u64 mem_cgroup_usage(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, bool swap) 
> >>  	u64 val; 
> >> 
> >>  	if (!mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg)) { 
> >>+		val = 0; 
> >>+#ifdef CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM 
> >>+		if (!memcg->kmem_independent_accounting) 
> >>+			val = res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->kmem, RES_USAGE); 
> >>+#endif 
> >>  		if (!swap) 
> >>-			return res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->res, RES_USAGE); 
> >>+			val += res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->res, RES_USAGE); 
> >>  		else 
> >>-			return res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->memsw, RES_USAGE); 
> >>+			val += res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->memsw, RES_USAGE); 
> >>+ 
> >>+		return val; 
> >>  	} 
> > 
> >So you report kmem+user but we do not consider kmem during charge so one 
> >can easily end up with usage_in_bytes over limit but no reclaim is going 
> >on. Not good, I would say. 
 
I find this a problem and one of the reason I do not like !independent 
accounting. 
 
> > 
> >OK, so to sum it up. The biggest problem I see is the (non)independent 
> >accounting. We simply cannot mix user+kernel limits otherwise we would 
> >see issues (like kernel resource hog would force memcg-oom and innocent 
> >members would die because their rss is much bigger). 
> >It is also not clear to me what should happen when we hit the kmem 
> >limit. I guess it will be kmem cache dependent. 
>  
> So right now, tcp is completely independent, since it is not 
> accounted to kmem.  
 
So why do we need kmem accounting when tcp (the only user at the moment) 
doesn't use it?  
 
> In summary, we still never do non-independent accounting. When we 
> start doing it for the other caches, We will have to add a test at 
> charge time as well. 
 
So we shouldn't do it as a part of this patchset because the further 
usage is not clear and I think there will be some real issues with 
user+kmem accounting (e.g. a proper memcg-oom implementation). 
Can you just drop this patch? 
 
> We still need to keep it separate though, in case the independent 
> flag is turned on/off 
 
I don't mind to have kmem.tcp.* knobs. 
 
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