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Re: User namespaces and keys [message #41853 is a reply to message #41851]

Wed, 23 February 2011 15:06

David Howells
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Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:

> > I guess we need to look at how to mix keys and namespaces again.
>
> From strictly kernel pov, at the moment, keys are strictly usable only
> by the user in your own user namespace.

I'm not sure that's currently completely true. Key quota maintenance is
namespaced, and the key's owner UID/GID belong to that namespace, so that's
okay, but:

(*) key_task_permission() does not distinguish UIDs and GIDs from different
namespaces.

(*) A key can be referred to by its serial number, no matter whose namespace
it is in, and will yield up its given UID/GID, even if these aren't
actually meaningful in your namespace.

This means request_key() can successfully upcall at the moment.

I wonder if I should make the following changes:

(1) If the key and the accessor are in different user namespaces, then skip
the UID and GID comparisons in key_task_permission(). That means that to
be able to access the key you'd have to possess the key and the key would
have to grant you Possessor access, or the key would have to grant you
Other access.

(2) If the key and someone viewing the key description are in different
namespaces, then indicate that the UID and the GID are -1, irrespective of
the actual values.

(3) When an upcall is attempting to instantiate a key, it is allowed to access
the keys of requestor using the requestor's credentials (UID, GID, groups,
security label). Ensure that this will be done in the requestor's user
namespace.

Nothing should need to be done here, since search_process_keyrings()
switches to the requestor's creds.

Oh, and are security labels user-namespaced?

> We may want to look at this again, but for now I think that would be a
> safe enough default. Later, we'll probably want the user creating a
> child_user_ns to allow his keys to be inherited by the child user_ns.

That depends what you mean by 'allow his keys to be inherited'. Do you mean
copying all the creator's keys en mass? You may find all you need to do is to
provide the new intended user with a new session keyring with a link back to
the creator's session keyring.

> Though, as I type that, it seems to me that that'll just become a
> maintenance pain, and it's just plain safer to have the user re-enter
> his keys,

That would certainly be simpler.

> sharing them over a file if needed.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean some sort of cred passing
similar to that that can be done over AF_UNIX sockets with fds?

> I'm going to not consider the TPM at the moment :)

I'm not sure the TPM is that much of a problem, assuming you're just referring
to its keystore capability...

David
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		userns: targeted capabilities v5 By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:02
		[PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:46
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: Daniel Lezcano on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:44
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 12:01
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: serge on Wed, 23 February 2011 13:43
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 11:40
		Re: [PATCH 2/9] security: Make capabilities relative to the user namespace. By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 16:59
		[PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:04
		Re: [PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 01:29
		Re: [PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: serge on Thu, 24 February 2011 03:24
		Re: [PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: akpm on Thu, 24 February 2011 05:08
		Re: [PATCH 9/9] userns: check user namespace for task->file uid equivalence checks By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 19:22
		[PATCH 7/9] add a user namespace owner of ipc ns By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 7/9] add a user namespace owner of ipc ns By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:19
		Re: [PATCH 7/9] add a user namespace owner of ipc ns By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 7/9] add a user namespace owner of ipc ns By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 17:57
		[PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:02
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:31
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: Daniel Lezcano on Fri, 18 February 2011 16:57
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 17:16
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: ebiederm on Wed, 23 February 2011 21:21
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 23:19
		Re: [PATCH 1/9] Add a user_namespace as creator/owner of uts_namespace By: ebiederm on Wed, 23 February 2011 23:54
		[PATCH 3/9] allow sethostname in a container By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 3/9] allow sethostname in a container By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:05
		Re: [PATCH 3/9] allow sethostname in a container By: Daniel Lezcano on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:46
		[PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:00
		Re: [PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: serge on Thu, 24 February 2011 00:48
		Re: [PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: akpm on Thu, 24 February 2011 00:54
		Re: [PATCH 4/9] allow killing tasks in your own or child userns By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 10:55
		[PATCH 6/9] user namespaces: convert all capable checks in kernel/sys.c By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 6/9] user namespaces: convert all capable checks in kernel/sys.c By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 01:57
		Re: [PATCH 6/9] user namespaces: convert all capable checks in kernel/sys.c By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 6/9] user namespaces: convert all capable checks in kernel/sys.c By: akpm on Sat, 19 February 2011 00:01
		Re: [PATCH 6/9] user namespaces: convert all capable checks in kernel/sys.c By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 17:52
		[PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 02:59
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: serge on Fri, 18 February 2011 04:36
		[PATCH] userns: ptrace: incorporate feedback from Eric By: serge on Thu, 24 February 2011 00:49
		Re: [PATCH] userns: ptrace: incorporate feedback from Eric By: akpm on Thu, 24 February 2011 00:56
		Re: [PATCH] userns: ptrace: incorporate feedback from Eric By: serge on Thu, 24 February 2011 03:15
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:59
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: serge on Thu, 24 February 2011 00:43
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 17:49
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 17:05
		Re: [PATCH 5/9] Allow ptrace from non-init user namespaces By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 17:11
		[PATCH 8/9] user namespaces: convert several capable() calls By: serge on Thu, 17 February 2011 15:03
		Re: [PATCH 8/9] user namespaces: convert several capable() calls By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 01:51
		Re: [PATCH 8/9] user namespaces: convert several capable() calls By: Daniel Lezcano on Sat, 19 February 2011 19:07
		Re: userns: targeted capabilities v5 By: akpm on Fri, 18 February 2011 00:21
		Re: userns: targeted capabilities v5 By: ebiederm on Fri, 18 February 2011 03:53
		Re: userns: targeted capabilities v5 By: serge on Fri, 18 February 2011 04:28
		User namespaces and keys By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 12:05
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: serge on Wed, 23 February 2011 13:58
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: ebiederm on Wed, 23 February 2011 14:46
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: David Howells on Wed, 23 February 2011 15:06
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: ebiederm on Wed, 23 February 2011 15:45
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: Serge E. Hallyn on Wed, 23 February 2011 15:53
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: Casey Schaufler on Wed, 23 February 2011 19:24
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: ebiederm on Wed, 23 February 2011 20:55
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: Casey Schaufler on Wed, 23 February 2011 21:37
		Re: User namespaces and keys By: ebiederm on Thu, 24 February 2011 06:56

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