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Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view [message #4052 is a reply to message #4046]

Tue, 27 June 2006 16:40

ebiederm
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Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 01:09:11PM +0400, Andrey Savochkin wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to caution about over-optimizing communications between
>> different network namespaces. Many optimizations of local traffic
>> (such as high MTU) don't look so appealing when you start to think
>> about live migration of namespaces.
>
> I think the 'optimization' (or to be precise: desire
> not to sacrifice local/loopback traffic for some use
> case as you describe it) does not interfere with live
> migration at all, we still will have 'local' and 'remote'
> traffic, and personally I doubt that the live migration
> is a feature for the masses ...

Several things.
- The linux loopback device is not strongly optimized, it is a compatibility
layer.
- Traffic between guests is an implementation detail.
There is nothing fundamental in our semantics that says the traffic
has to be slow for any workload (except for the limuts imposed by using
actual on the wire protocols). The lo shares the same problem.

Worry about this case now when it has clearly been shown that there are several
possible ways to optimize this and get back any lost local performance is
optimizing way too early.

Criticize the per namespace performance and all you want. That is pretty
much a merge blocker. Unless we do worse than a 1-5% penalty the communication
across namespaces is really a non-issue.

Even with your large communications flows between guests 1-5% is nothing.

Eric

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		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: ebiederm on Mon, 26 June 2006 16:40
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Herbert Poetzl on Mon, 26 June 2006 18:36
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: ebiederm on Mon, 26 June 2006 19:35
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Herbert Poetzl on Mon, 26 June 2006 20:02
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: ebiederm on Mon, 26 June 2006 20:37
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Herbert Poetzl on Mon, 26 June 2006 21:26
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: ebiederm on Mon, 26 June 2006 22:11
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Ben Greear on Mon, 26 June 2006 21:59
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Andrey Savochkin on Tue, 27 June 2006 09:09
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Herbert Poetzl on Tue, 27 June 2006 15:48
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: ebiederm on Tue, 27 June 2006 16:40
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Andrey Savochkin on Tue, 27 June 2006 16:19
		Re: [patch 2/6] [Network namespace] Network device sharing by view By: Ben Greear on Mon, 26 June 2006 22:13

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