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Re: [PATCH 2/2] hijack: update task_alloc_security [message #24156 is a reply to message #23980] Sun, 02 December 2007 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Crispin Cowan is currently offline  Crispin Cowan
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Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Crispin Cowan (crispin@crispincowan.com):
>   
>> I find that ptrace, specifically CAP_SYS_PTRACE, is overloaded. AppArmor
>> is having problems because we have to choose between granting
>> cap_sys_ptrace, or not allowing the process to read /proc/pid/self &
>> such like. So there, the problem is that we have to grant too much power
>> to a process to just let it read some /proc stuff about itself.
>>
>> Here the problem appears to be the other way. cap_sys_ptrace is powerful
>> enough to mess with other user's processes on the system, but if ptrace
>> gives you hijack, then that seems to give you the power to control
>> processes in someone else's namespace.
>>     
> The user namespace patchset I'm working on right now to start having
> signals respect user namespaces introduces CAP_NS_OVERRIDE.  Once that
> is in, then hijack would require CAP_NS_OVERRIDE|CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
>
> Of course, since we're considering only allowing HIJACK_NS which is
> only allowed into a different namespace, hijack would then always
> require CAP_NS_OVERRIDE...
>
> Does that suffice?
>   
I think that CAP_NS_OVERRIDE|CAP_SYS_PTRACE is a problem because of the
| making ptrace more powerful than it is now. If you make it
CAP_NS_OVERRIDE only, then the problem goes away.

Crispin

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