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opensuse 10.2 [message #15060]

Tue, 17 July 2007 22:02

tomtom
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

Hi i tried to install openvz under opensuse 10.2 but with no luck. Is it likely in the near future, that you may release a ovz kernel for openuse 10.2? Thanks in advance.

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15071 is a reply to message #15060]

Wed, 18 July 2007 04:13

vaverin
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Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Could you please describe your issue in more details? What the kernel you have tried to install, what the troubles you have noticed?

thank you
Vasily Averin

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15095 is a reply to message #15071]

Wed, 18 July 2007 18:56

tomtom
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

Sure! Thanks for your reply! Here comes my params:

uname -a
Linux bear 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

/proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 47
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size : 512 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 2011.53
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

/sbin/lsmod:
Module Size Used by
xt_pkttype 18816 3
ipt_LOG 23808 12
xt_limit 20224 12
fglrx 780804 0
tun 29440 2
snd_pcm_oss 71680 0
snd_mixer_oss 35840 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 27648 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 25856 0
snd_emux_synth 59648 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 25088 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_event 25472 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi
snd_seq_midi_emul 24064 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq 82976 5 snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_eve nt,snd_seq_midi_emul
af_packet 57356 2
cpufreq_conservative 25608 0
cpufreq_ondemand 24592 1
cpufreq_userspace 24064 0
cpufreq_powersave 18688 0
powernow_k8 32416 0
freq_table 22912 1 powernow_k8
button 24736 0
battery 28168 0
ac 22792 0
ip6t_REJECT 22528 3
xt_tcpudp 20352 14
ipt_REJECT 22528 3
xt_state 19200 12
iptable_mangle 19840 0
iptable_nat 24964 0
ip_nat 37804 1 iptable_nat
iptable_filter 19968 1
ip6table_mangle 19456 0
ip_conntrack 78372 3 xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_nat
nfnetlink 24648 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
ip_tables 39400 3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
ip6table_filter 19840 1
ip6_tables 33352 2 ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
x_tables 37384 10 xt_pkttype,ipt_LOG,xt_limit,ip6t_REJECT,xt_tcpudp,ipt_REJECT ,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_tables,ip6_tables
ipv6 357728 41 ip6t_REJECT
apparmor 74264 0
aamatch_pcre 31232 1 apparmor
nls_iso8859_1 22016 1
nls_cp437 23808 1
vfat 30976 1
fat 73264 1 vfat
loop 34064 0
dm_mod 81872 5
fuse 66352 3
usbhid 69792 0
snd_emu10k1 152480 3 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 47104 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
emu10k1_gp 21120 0
gameport 34576 2 emu10k1_gp
snd_seq_device 26516 6 snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq,snd_em u10k1,snd_rawmidi
ide_cd 59680 0
cdrom 54056 1 ide_cd
snd_util_mem 22656 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 28552 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
floppy 82408 0
ohci_hcd 38404 0
ehci_hcd 51080 0
forcedeth 60548 0
i2c_nforce2 24960 0
i2c_core 41472 1 i2c_nforce2
usbcore 148064 3 usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
snd_intel8x0 54440 2
snd_ac97_codec 127832 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 19456 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 115464 5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 44680 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd 89384 24 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd _emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq,snd_em u10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep,snd_ intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 28192 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 27792 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
parport_pc 58984 1
lp 30664 0
parport 59660 2 parport_pc,lp
reiserfs 260096 3
edd 27912 0
fan 22408 0
sg 55080 0
sata_nv 30084 6
libata 145056 1 sata_nv
amd74xx 32176 0 [permanent]
thermal 33552 0
processor 53992 2 powernow_k8,thermal
sd_mod 39296 8
scsi_mod 173744 3 sg,libata,sd_mod
ide_disk 34304 0
ide_core 174720 3 ide_cd,amd74xx,ide_disk

First i tried to install from the following "official" suse repo:
http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/open vz/openSUSE_10.2/x86_64/

It just totally hanged out during boot, however it loaded almost everything, mounted the file systems, started the daemons, etc but afterwards it just stopped i had to hard reset the computer because even ctrl+alt+del didn't work.

After that i tried to use kernel from
http://download.openvz.org/kernel/branches/2.6.18/stable/ker nel-2.6.18-ovz028stab035.1.x86_64.rpm

i installed it with "rpm -ivh -nodeps kernel..."
with this one i was able to boot but the boot was full with errors and in KDE the mouse didn't worked at all, however the keyboard was ok, so i switch back to a console but i wasn't able to do anything...
I will send a more detailed error report on this second case, just first i have to reboot Smile

Anyway, thank you for your effort helping me to solve this issue.

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15102 is a reply to message #15095]

Thu, 19 July 2007 08:25

Vasily Tarasov
Messages: 1345
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

Hello,

Probably the kernel from http://download.openvz.org/kernel/branches/2.6.18/stable/ker nel-2.6.18-ovz028stab035.1.x86_64.rpm has a bit poor config for running on desktop node. Can you, please, try this kernel: http://download.openvz.org/kernel/branches/rhel5-2.6.18/028s tab035.1/ovzkernel-2.6.18-8.1.4.el5.028stab035.1.x86_64.rpm. It has much more reach config file.

Thank you,
Vasily

[Updated on: Thu, 19 July 2007 08:26]

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15119 is a reply to message #15102]

Thu, 19 July 2007 11:42

tomtom
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

Okay!

I did:
rpm -ivh ovzkernel-2.6.18-8.1.4.el5.028stab035.1.x86_64.rpm --nodeps

and the result was:

/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.69793: line 6: /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: No such file or directory
error: %post(ovzkernel-2.6.18-8.1.4.el5.028stab035.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 127

but rpm -qa | grep kernel says it is installed so now i'm going to do a reboot and come back tell you what happend!

See you soon Wink

and thank you guys all for your help!

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15120 is a reply to message #15102]

Thu, 19 July 2007 11:45

tomtom
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

It seems i screwed something. I installed it with --nodeps and run mkinitrd

I edited grub menu.lst and rebooted i choosed the ovzkernel and it said:
Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable form

strange it probably because the previous ovzkernel.
I tried to rpm -e --nodeps ovz-kernel... but it just didn't work

/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.66929: line 1: /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: No such file or directory
error: %preun(ovzkernel-2.6.18-8.1.4.el5.028stab035.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 127

[Updated on: Thu, 19 July 2007 18:24]

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15134 is a reply to message #15060]

Thu, 19 July 2007 18:57

Alexey Eremenko
Messages: 23
Registered: May 2007

Junior Member

1. OpenVZ Kernel problem: (on openSUSE 10.2)

The same goes for me. I'm also Suser that wants to get a good OpenVZ, SUSE-compatible kernel, but unfortunately I get only a dozen of non-working kernels.

The RHEL5 kernel is one of them - on SUSE, modprobe *cannot* find it's own modules, even I know they exist.
Some modules metadata lacks in the kernel, so it prevents from SUSE Linux to function.

BTW: is "initrd" should be inside the RPM, or the user needs to create one ?

2. integrating OpenVZ with openSUSE - I really would like to see good integration between openSUSE and openVZ.

[Updated on: Thu, 19 July 2007 19:00]

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15135 is a reply to message #15134]

Thu, 19 July 2007 19:12

tomtom
Messages: 6
Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

Both time i had to run mkinitrd in order to have
initrd-2.6.18-8.1.4.el5.028stab035.1
or
initrd-2.6.18-ovz028stab035.1
in /boot

[Updated on: Thu, 19 July 2007 19:14]

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15164 is a reply to message #15134]

Fri, 20 July 2007 11:07

Vasily Tarasov
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Registered: January 2006

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Alexey,

This is a very bad situation, we actually thought, that our kernels work on SUSE-like distributions. Thank you for the report, a I filled the bug report: http://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647

We'll try to solve problem.

Thank you,
Vasily

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15185 is a reply to message #15164]

Fri, 20 July 2007 17:33

tomtom
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Registered: July 2007

Junior Member

Thanks Vasily

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15200 is a reply to message #15164]

Fri, 20 July 2007 20:48

Alexey Eremenko
Messages: 23
Registered: May 2007

Junior Member

Thanks a lot Vasily.

To get more info, you can read some of my posts of the past:
http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=tree&th=2446&mid =12562&&rev=&reveal=
http://marc.info/?l=opensuse&m=117819085209106&w=2

Currently openVZ is tied *very closely* with Red Hat, but I would really like to break this RedHat-centric monopol.

The monopol is felt very well, when I start reading openVZ official documentation and it's success stories with CentOS/RHEL/Fedora/... and tips about those OSes.

What's wrong with current situation:
1. *none* of the kernels available on the net works with openSUSE 10.2. or 10.3 Alpha. Not even VZ kernel from openSUSE 10.0.

2. OpenVZ Documentation is absolutely RedHat centric.

I'm going to *fix* that one - once I will get a stable openVZ/ openSUSE-compatible kernel, I will try to write the necessary documentation for openSUSE. I plan to have this documentation available as part of openSUSE distro, and I have no plans to integrate this documentation upstream, into openVZ itself, but I may change this plan if asked.
Once my documentation will become part of openSUSE, it will be easier to direct Susers to my documentation, rather than official documentation.

3. What else may I do to improve the terrible lack of integration between openVZ and openSUSE ? (I'm non-developer)

-Alexey "Technologov"

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15216 is a reply to message #15060]

Sun, 22 July 2007 19:47

Alexey Eremenko
Messages: 23
Registered: May 2007

Junior Member

I just tried to build an OVZ/SUSE kernel, but it failed to load the vzmon LKM.

I did:
1. downloaded 2.6.18 vanilla kernel (from kernel.org)
2. applied ovz035 stable patch to it.
3. compiled the whole bunch (compile went cleanly)
4. restarted the system into the new kernel
5. The system loaded with "vzdev" driver, but "vzmon" fails to load.

Here it is:
opensuse102:/home/alexey # modprobe vzmon
FATAL: Error inserting vzmon (/lib/modules/2.6.18-ovz035-default/kernel/kernel/ve/vzmon.k o): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

dmesg returned the following:

vzmon: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted.
vzmon: no version magic, tainting kernel.
vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_ifdown
vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_fini
vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_free
vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_init
vzmon: Unknown symbol fini_ve_route6
vzmon: Unknown symbol init_ve_route6
vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_init
vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_fini
vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_init

Any ideas ?

-Technologov

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15220 is a reply to message #15216]

Mon, 23 July 2007 03:46

vaverin
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Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Hi Alexey,

couls you please check the following:

1) Could you please confirm that you have used our default config and do not changed any OpenVZ-specific options?

Modprode can return "Unknown symbol" messages you have compiled kernel without supporting of modules required for the module. But if you have used our default kernel config -- in this case all requires modules should be builded and installed successfully.

2) Could you please check that /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/modules.dep file exists?

After installation new kernel on the node you should use "depmod" utility that should create a list of module dependencies
(/lib/modules/<kernel_version>/modules.dep)

3) Are you sure that you have prepared correct initrd file for your new kernel? Modules from old initrd will have wrong dependencies if new kernel is loaded.

Thank you,
Vasily Averin

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Re: opensuse 10.2 [message #15277 is a reply to message #15220]

Wed, 25 July 2007 17:55

Alexey Eremenko
Messages: 23
Registered: May 2007

Junior Member

Now I have built a kernel using *your* config files, and it works !

I still have some problems and questions, but finally it works !

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