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HN System [message #1266]

Sat, 04 February 2006 23:15

Daniel Bauer
Messages: 37
Registered: February 2006

Member

Hi,

is Fedora the only HN System?

I've installed successfully Fedora Core 4 on a small server and
activated OpenVZ, but I couldn't install it on the main server (Compaq
Proliant DL760, 8 CPU, 12 GB RAM).

Best regards
Daniel

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Re: HN System [message #1267 is a reply to message #1266]

Sun, 05 February 2006 02:42

RapidVPS
Messages: 32
Registered: January 2006

Member

Hi Daniel,

FC is not the only host distribution. I use CentOS 4. What distro is your Compaq running? Describe the problem, including any errors or messages you receive so that we can help you.

Rick

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Re: HN System [message #1268 is a reply to message #1266]

Sun, 05 February 2006 09:06

dev
Messages: 1693
Registered: September 2005
Location: Moscow

Senior Member

Hello,

> is Fedora the only HN System?
No, OpenVZ runs perfectly on almost any Linux distribution.
It definetly works find on RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, SUSE, SLES, Slackware
and Debian.

> I've installed successfully Fedora Core 4 on a small server and
> activated OpenVZ, but I couldn't install it on the main server (Compaq
> Proliant DL760, 8 CPU, 12 GB RAM).
It the problem with Fedora Core 4, i.e. it can't work on your Compaq or
with OpenVZ kernel?
What is exactly your problem with it?

Kirill

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Re: HN System [message #1276 is a reply to message #1268]

Sun, 05 February 2006 09:55

Daniel Bauer
Messages: 37
Registered: February 2006

Member

Hi Kirill,

From: "Kirill Korotaev" <dev@sw.ru>
>> is Fedora the only HN System?
> No, OpenVZ runs perfectly on almost any Linux distribution.
> It definetly works find on RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, SUSE, SLES, Slackware
> and Debian.

this was the message from Kir:
From: "Kir Kolyshkin" <kir@openvz.org>
> Daniel Bauer wrote:
>> so is it possible to patch a 9.3 kernel with the sources of OpenVZ
>
> I believe not, since SuSE 9.3 is based on quite a different kernel
> then that used as a base for OpenVZ. Instead you just take standard
> OpenVZ kernel and complain if something doesn't work (everything
> should work if your system supports kernel 2.6).

so I think there is no way to patch the kernel?!

>> I've installed successfully Fedora Core 4 on a small server and
>> activated OpenVZ, but I couldn't install it on the main server
>> (Compaq Proliant DL760, 8 CPU, 12 GB RAM).
> It the problem with Fedora Core 4, i.e. it can't work on your Compaq
> or with OpenVZ kernel?
> What is exactly your problem with it?

No also the normal FC4 installation fails with accessing the Smart Array
as installation destination. The message is "no space on device", but I
allowed to take the hole disk (54GB). So if Fedora is not running and
I'm not able to install the OpenVZ Kernel.

Bye
Daniel

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Re: HN System [message #1277 is a reply to message #1276]

Sun, 05 February 2006 10:37

dev
Messages: 1693
Registered: September 2005
Location: Moscow

Senior Member

> this was the message from Kir:
> From: "Kir Kolyshkin" <kir@openvz.org>
>> Daniel Bauer wrote:
>>> so is it possible to patch a 9.3 kernel with the sources of OpenVZ
>>
>> I believe not, since SuSE 9.3 is based on quite a different kernel
>> then that used as a base for OpenVZ. Instead you just take standard
>> OpenVZ kernel and complain if something doesn't work (everything
>> should work if your system supports kernel 2.6).
>
> so I think there is no way to patch the kernel?!
There is no patched SUSE9.3 kernel yeah, but it is not required very
much, is it? There is no much special in SUSE kernels except for bug
fixes, drivers etc. And this is what we do in OpenVZ as well.

> No also the normal FC4 installation fails with accessing the Smart Array
> as installation destination. The message is "no space on device", but I
> allowed to take the hole disk (54GB). So if Fedora is not running and
> I'm not able to install the OpenVZ Kernel.
You can install CentOS4.2, SUSE9.3 or whatever distribution which
supports your hardware. If OpenVZ kernel won't support this hardware we
just need lspci information from you to find out the driver which will
support it.

Kirill

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Re: HN System [message #1278 is a reply to message #1277]

Sun, 05 February 2006 12:57

Daniel Bauer
Messages: 37
Registered: February 2006

Member

From: "Kirill Korotaev" <dev@sw.ru>
>> this was the message from Kir:
>> From: "Kir Kolyshkin" <kir@openvz.org>
>>> Daniel Bauer wrote:
>>>> so is it possible to patch a 9.3 kernel with the sources of OpenVZ
>>>
>>> I believe not, since SuSE 9.3 is based on quite a different kernel
>>> then that used as a base for OpenVZ. Instead you just take standard
>>> OpenVZ kernel and complain if something doesn't work (everything
>>> should work if your system supports kernel 2.6).
>>
>> so I think there is no way to patch the kernel?!
> There is no patched SUSE9.3 kernel yeah, but it is not required very
> much, is it? There is no much special in SUSE kernels except for bug
> fixes, drivers etc. And this is what we do in OpenVZ as well.

I tried now to install the ovz enterprise kernel and it doesn't work
because it needs higher versions of mkinitrd and initscripts ...

>> No also the normal FC4 installation fails with accessing the Smart
>> Array as installation destination. The message is "no space on
>> device", but I allowed to take the hole disk (54GB). So if Fedora is
>> not running and I'm not able to install the OpenVZ Kernel.
> You can install CentOS4.2, SUSE9.3 or whatever distribution which
> supports your hardware. If OpenVZ kernel won't support this hardware
> we just need lspci information from you to find out the driver which
> will support it.

That is great. I'll prefer SuSE 9.3 because it works great for me and
have all packages that I want.

Daniel

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Re: HN System [message #1279 is a reply to message #1278]

Sun, 05 February 2006 14:54

kir
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Moscow, Russia

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

> I tried now to install the ovz enterprise kernel and it doesn't work
> because it needs higher versions of mkinitrd and initscripts ...

This is clearly the problem with different versions of those tools in
SuSE than in RedHat. I'm not yet sure how we are going to handle
it....looks like we have to create a separate spec/rpms for SuSE.
Kirill, do you have any ideas?

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Re: HN System [message #1284 is a reply to message #1279]

Sun, 05 February 2006 15:13

dev
Messages: 1693
Registered: September 2005
Location: Moscow

Senior Member

>> I tried now to install the ovz enterprise kernel and it doesn't work
>> because it needs higher versions of mkinitrd and initscripts ...
>
> This is clearly the problem with different versions of those tools in
> SuSE than in RedHat. I'm not yet sure how we are going to handle
> it....looks like we have to create a separate spec/rpms for SuSE.
> Kirill, do you have any ideas?
Most likely you don't need initrd at all. This is why we compile most
disk drivers into kernel. To work on different distributions.

Kirill

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Re: HN System [message #1286 is a reply to message #1278]

Sat, 04 February 2006 14:58

weycresto
Messages: 17
Registered: September 2005
Location: London

Junior Member

Daniel Bauer wrote:

>> You can install CentOS4.2, SUSE9.3 or whatever distribution which
>> supports your hardware. If OpenVZ kernel won't support this hardware
>> we just need lspci information from you to find out the driver which
>> will support it.
>
>
> That is great. I'll prefer SuSE 9.3 because it works great for me and
> have all packages that I want.
>

I use OpenVZ on Centos 4.2 on Compaq DL380's without problems. Bear in
mind that although Suse 9.3 might have all packages you want, on the
hardware node you are looking for a bare/minimal install so OS choice is
less important (provided it installs of course!). Apart from
networking, ssh, and vz etc nothing else should run on the hardware
node. All services httpd, mysqld etc.. should run within the VPS's you
create.

Paul>

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Re: HN System [message #1298 is a reply to message #1286]

Mon, 06 February 2006 09:33

Daniel Bauer
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Registered: February 2006

Member

From: "Paul Lee" <admin@weycrest.com>
> Daniel Bauer wrote:
>>> You can install CentOS4.2, SUSE9.3 or whatever distribution which
>>> supports your hardware. If OpenVZ kernel won't support this hardware
>>> we just need lspci information from you to find out the driver which
>>> will support it.
>>
>>
>> That is great. I'll prefer SuSE 9.3 because it works great for me and
>> have all packages that I want.
>>
>
> I use OpenVZ on Centos 4.2 on Compaq DL380's without problems. Bear in
> mind that although Suse 9.3 might have all packages you want, on the
> hardware node you are looking for a bare/minimal install so OS choice
> is less important (provided it installs of course!). Apart from
> networking, ssh, and vz etc nothing else should run on the hardware
> node. All services httpd, mysqld etc.. should run within the VPS's you
> create.

Hi Paul,

I don't want more as ssh on the HN, the separation of the diff. services
is the reason for me to work with VPS. But the main problem is now to
install an OS on the hardware node which access the whole CPU and RAM.
The less problems I've with SuSE.

Daniel

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Re: Re: HN System [message #1299 is a reply to message #1267]

Mon, 06 February 2006 09:33

Daniel Bauer
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Registered: February 2006

Member

From: "RapidVPS" <rickb@rapidvps.com>
> FC is not the only host distribution. I use CentOS 4.
> What distro is your Compaq running? Describe the
> problem, including any errors or messages you receive
> so that we can help you.

Hi Rick,

it runs perfectly with a SuSE 9.3 or SuSE 10.0.

The problem is that the Fedora installation tells me that there is no
space on device. But I allowed Fedora to use the hole disk. And
DiskDruid shows me the full 54 GB.

Daniel

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Re: HN System [message #1300 is a reply to message #1284]

Mon, 06 February 2006 09:33

Daniel Bauer
Messages: 37
Registered: February 2006

Member

From: "Kirill Korotaev" <dev@sw.ru>
>>> I tried now to install the ovz enterprise kernel and it doesn't work
>>> because it needs higher versions of mkinitrd and initscripts ...
>>
>> This is clearly the problem with different versions of those tools in
>> SuSE than in RedHat. I'm not yet sure how we are going to handle
>> it....looks like we have to create a separate spec/rpms for SuSE.
>> Kirill, do you have any ideas?
> Most likely you don't need initrd at all. This is why we compile most
> disk drivers into kernel. To work on different distributions.

Hi Kirill,

is it possible to copy only the boot information to the SuSE /boot?

System map
Kernel
initrd

Daniel

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RE: Re: HN System [message #1338 is a reply to message #1299]

Tue, 07 February 2006 01:26

Aistis Zenkevicius
Messages: 5
Registered: February 2006

Junior Member

|-----Original Message-----
|From: users-bounces@openvz.org [mailto:users-bounces@openvz.org] On
|Behalf Of Daniel Bauer
|Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:33 AM
|To: users@openvz.org
|Subject: Re: [Users] Re: HN System
|
|From: "RapidVPS" <rickb@rapidvps.com>
|> FC is not the only host distribution. I use CentOS 4.
|> What distro is your Compaq running? Describe the
|> problem, including any errors or messages you receive
|> so that we can help you.
|
|Hi Rick,
|
|it runs perfectly with a SuSE 9.3 or SuSE 10.0.

Daniel, may I ask you if you tried to install OpenVZ kernel and
utilities on your SuSe9.3? If you did - what problems did you come up?

|The problem is that the Fedora installation tells me that there is no
|space on device. But I allowed Fedora to use the hole disk. And
|DiskDruid shows me the full 54 GB.

And how is that related to openvz-users mailinglist?

Aistis

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Re: Re: HN System [message #1352 is a reply to message #1338]

Tue, 07 February 2006 05:22

Daniel Bauer
Messages: 37
Registered: February 2006

Member

Hi Aistis,

From: "Aistis Zenkevicius" <noc@unix.lt>
> |Behalf Of Daniel Bauer
> |From: "RapidVPS" <rickb@rapidvps.com>
> |> FC is not the only host distribution. I use CentOS 4.
> |> What distro is your Compaq running? Describe the
> |> problem, including any errors or messages you receive
> |> so that we can help you.
> |
> |it runs perfectly with a SuSE 9.3 or SuSE 10.0.
>
> Daniel, may I ask you if you tried to install OpenVZ kernel and
> utilities on your SuSe9.3? If you did - what problems did you come up?

it was not possible to install the install the rpm, because of the
dependencies for mkinitrd an initscripts. I try today to copy only the
kernel into a SuSE System.

> |The problem is that the Fedora installation tells me that there is no
> |space on device. But I allowed Fedora to use the hole disk. And
> |DiskDruid shows me the full 54 GB.
>
> And how is that related to openvz-users mailinglist?

As I understand Kir first I've to install Fedora for working with
OpenVZ, but I can't install Fedora because it have problems with my
hardware node. So I'd like to find another way to work with OpenVZ. SuSE
was the only distribution which worked with my hn completely well.

Daniel

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Re: Re: HN System [message #1356 is a reply to message #1352]

Tue, 07 February 2006 08:40

kir
Messages: 1645
Registered: August 2005
Location: Moscow, Russia

Senior Member

Daniel Bauer wrote:

>> Daniel, may I ask you if you tried to install OpenVZ kernel and
>> utilities on your SuSe9.3? If you did - what problems did you come up?
>
> it was not possible to install the install the rpm, because of the
> dependencies for mkinitrd an initscripts. I try today to copy only the
> kernel into a SuSE System.

As said by dev@ before, you do not need mkinitrd so you can try
installing kernel with --nodeps option to rpm.

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Re: Re: HN System [message #1365 is a reply to message #1356]

Tue, 07 February 2006 12:00

Daniel Bauer
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Registered: February 2006

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From: "Kir Kolyshkin" <kir@openvz.org>
> Daniel Bauer wrote:
>>> Daniel, may I ask you if you tried to install OpenVZ kernel and
>>> utilities on your SuSe9.3? If you did - what problems did you come
>>> up?
>>
>> it was not possible to install the install the rpm, because of the
>> dependencies for mkinitrd an initscripts. I try today to copy only
>> the kernel into a SuSE System.
>
> As said by dev@ before, you do not need mkinitrd so you can try
> installing kernel with --nodeps option to rpm.

Hi Kir,

thats exactly what I did. I've done several tests, but the machine
reboot everytime after detecting the mouse.

Daniel

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