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Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case [message #1203 is a reply to message #1174]

Fri, 03 February 2006 10:52

Alexey Kuznetsov
Messages: 18
Registered: February 2006

Junior Member

Hello!

> This is an interesting approach. Could you elaborate a bit on on why
> you need the two different approaches? What conditions cause the switch
> to the sparse approach?
>
> Also, if you could separate those two approaches out into two different
> patches, it would be much easier to get a grasp about what's going on.
> One of them is just an optimization, right?

Exactly. They are not two different "approaches", it is just a simple
optimization.

In our approach each process has pair of pids: one is global unique identifier
(read, it is real pid from viewpoint of kernel), another is virtual pid.
We just do not want to lose cycles allocating both of them all the time,
so we derive virtual pid from global one, it is automatically "virtually"
unique.

Switch to "sparse" mapping happens _only_ after migration, when a process
must be recreated with the same virtual pid, but with new global pid.

> Did you happen to catch Linus's mail about his preferred approach?
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113874154 731279&w=2

Of course. Logically, it would be final solution.

VPID approach is pragmatic: it does not modify existing logic, rather
it relies on it. So, it just allows to use virtual pids in a simple
and efficient way, which is enough for all known tasks.

Alexey

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		[RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 15:54
		[RFC][PATCH 1/7] VPIDs: add VPID config option By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:16
		[RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:21
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Wed, 08 February 2006 20:29
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Wed, 08 February 2006 23:53
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 00:37
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Thu, 09 February 2006 01:11
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 01:36
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: serue on Thu, 09 February 2006 02:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Thu, 09 February 2006 09:55
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 19:22
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Mon, 20 February 2006 14:55
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Herbert Poetzl on Mon, 20 February 2006 16:56
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Tue, 21 February 2006 16:17
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Herbert Poetzl on Tue, 21 February 2006 23:17
		[RFC][PATCH 3/7] VPIDs: fork modifications By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/7] VPIDs: fork modifications By: Cedric Le Goater on Thu, 02 February 2006 20:08
		[RFC][PATCH 4/7] VPIDs: vpid macros in non-VPID case By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:26
		[RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:30
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Dave Hansen on Thu, 02 February 2006 17:05
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Thu, 02 February 2006 19:29
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 10:52
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 12:48
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 14:02
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Dave Hansen on Fri, 03 February 2006 16:25
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 11:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 17:05
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 09:48
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Mon, 06 February 2006 14:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 15:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Mon, 06 February 2006 16:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 09:46
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: dev on Tue, 07 February 2006 11:42
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 12:59
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 09:15
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: dev on Fri, 03 February 2006 14:03
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 15:40
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Kirill Korotaev on Fri, 03 February 2006 16:26
		[RFC][PATCH 6/7] VPIDs: small proc VPID export By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:31
		[RFC][PATCH 7/7] VPIDs: required VPS interface for VPIDs By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:32
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Herbert Poetzl on Fri, 03 February 2006 03:01
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Kirill Korotaev on Fri, 03 February 2006 10:30
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 12:45

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