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Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) [message #1197 is a reply to message #1153]

Fri, 03 February 2006 03:01

Herbert Poetzl
Messages: 239
Registered: February 2006

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On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 06:54:21PM +0300, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach)
>
> OpenVZ project would like to present another approach for VPIDs
> developed by Alexey Kuznetsov. These patches were heavily tested and
> used for half a year in OpenVZ already.
>
> OpenVZ VPIDs serves the same purpose of VPS (container) checkpointing
> and restore. OpenVZ VPS checkpointing code will be released soon.
>
> These VPIDs patches look less intrusive than IBM's, so I would ask to
> consider it for inclusion. Other projects can benefit from this code
> as well.

well, IMHO this approach lacks a few things which would
be very useful in a mainline pid virtualization, which
pretty much explains why it is relatively small

- hierarchical structure (it's flat, only one level)
- a proper administration scheme
- a 'view' into the child pid spaces
- handling of inter context signalling

and, more important, it does not deal with the existing
issues and error cases, where references to pids, tasks,
task groups and sessions aren't handled properly ...

I think that in real world virtualization scenarios
with hundreds of namespaces those 'imprecisions' will
occasionally lead to very strange and random behaviour
which in many cases will go completely unnoticed.

so I really prefer to cleanup the existing pid handling
first, to avoid big surprises later ...

best,
Herbert

> Patch set consists of 7 patches. The main patches are: -
> diff-vpids-macro, which introduces pid access interface -
> diff-vpids-core, which introduces pid translations where required
> using new interfaces - diff-vpids-virt, which introduces virtual pids
> handling in pid.c and pid mappings for VPSs
>
> Patches are against latest 2.6.16-rc1-git6
>
> Kirill Korotaev,
> OpenVZ team
>
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		[RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 15:54
		[RFC][PATCH 1/7] VPIDs: add VPID config option By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:16
		[RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:21
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Wed, 08 February 2006 20:29
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Wed, 08 February 2006 23:53
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 00:37
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Thu, 09 February 2006 01:11
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 01:36
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: serue on Thu, 09 February 2006 02:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Thu, 09 February 2006 09:55
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: ebiederm on Thu, 09 February 2006 19:22
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Mon, 20 February 2006 14:55
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Herbert Poetzl on Mon, 20 February 2006 16:56
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: dev on Tue, 21 February 2006 16:17
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/7] VPIDs: pid/vpid conversions By: Herbert Poetzl on Tue, 21 February 2006 23:17
		[RFC][PATCH 3/7] VPIDs: fork modifications By: dev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/7] VPIDs: fork modifications By: Cedric Le Goater on Thu, 02 February 2006 20:08
		[RFC][PATCH 4/7] VPIDs: vpid macros in non-VPID case By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:26
		[RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:30
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Dave Hansen on Thu, 02 February 2006 17:05
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Thu, 02 February 2006 19:29
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 10:52
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 12:48
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 14:02
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Dave Hansen on Fri, 03 February 2006 16:25
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 11:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 17:05
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 09:48
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Mon, 06 February 2006 14:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Mon, 06 February 2006 15:51
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: serue on Mon, 06 February 2006 16:24
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 09:46
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: dev on Tue, 07 February 2006 11:42
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 12:59
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Tue, 07 February 2006 09:15
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: dev on Fri, 03 February 2006 14:03
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Cedric Le Goater on Fri, 03 February 2006 15:40
		Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/7] VPIDs: vpid/pid conversion in VPID enabled case By: Kirill Korotaev on Fri, 03 February 2006 16:26
		[RFC][PATCH 6/7] VPIDs: small proc VPID export By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:31
		[RFC][PATCH 7/7] VPIDs: required VPS interface for VPIDs By: Kirill Korotaev on Thu, 02 February 2006 16:32
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Herbert Poetzl on Fri, 03 February 2006 03:01
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Kirill Korotaev on Fri, 03 February 2006 10:30
		Re: [RFC][PATCH] VPIDs: Virtualization of PIDs (OpenVZ approach) By: Alexey Kuznetsov on Fri, 03 February 2006 12:45

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